Deborah Pollack-Milgate Deborah Pollack-Milgate

Season 4, Episode 5: The Barbieland Mess

Dr. Nithila Peter returns to the Parity Podcast and joins Deborah to discuss the magic and mess of the Barbie movie. Drawing on her background in media studies, Nithila offers insight into the cinematic experience and the bookends of the movie, from the birth of Barbie to the gynecologist's office. Simulatenously inspired and horrified by the perfectly sculpted Barbie as a role model, Nithila and Deborah discuss the film's depiction of the hyper-femininine and hyper-masculine worlds, and what they reveal about parity. They discuss the complexity of the Barbie doll as a toy, along with the film's depiction of the gender divide. While Barbie inspires both women and men to create their authentic selves, one wonders whether that powerful pink message can inspire in the shadow of stereotypical Barbie beauty.

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Season 4, Episode 4: No Need to Apologize, with Kara Wojnowski

In this episode, Cathy and Deborah speak to Kara Wojnowski, a Marketing Manager at Biorigin Specialty Products, who has studied the communication differences between women and men. One large difference is many women's tendency to apologize, even when there is no reason to do so. How does over-apologizing undermine a person's credibility? And when should someone apologize and when not? Kara discusses these issues and more with the Parity Podcast, and helps us think critically about communication styles--without violating Parity Podcast's golden rule against trying to change women

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Cathy Nestrick Cathy Nestrick

Season 4, Episode 3: The DEI Vocabulary List

Over the last several years, we've developed a brand-new vocabulary to talk about very old problems. In this episode, Cathy and Deborah explore the importance of that vocabulary, as well as its imperfections and limitations. They also discuss how seemingly uncontroversial terms have become oh-so controversial, while identifying solutions to overcome the divide. 

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Season 4, Ep 2: There is a Better Way, INVERSITY's Approach to DEI with Karith Foster

In this episode, we welcome Karith Foster whose new approach to achieving workplace inclusion rejects the use of blame and shame in diversity, equity, and inclusion efforts. She offers a new path forward, recognizing that all of us are different and unique, and true change requires everyone to participate.

You can learn more about how INVERSITY takes the division out of diversity.

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Season 4, Ep 1: Mental Health and Getting Well in the Workplace, with Vivia Chen

Kicking off the fourth season, Cathy and Deborah welcome Vivia Chen to discuss the challenges of getting the care you need for your mental health. Vivia, an award winning columnist and prolific opinion writer, was denied short term disability because she was not deemed "sad enough." Vivia discusses mental health stereotypes and solutions for change.

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Season 3, Ep. 10: The Backlash, Unpacking the State of DEI

In this episode, Cathy and Deborah discuss the revolt against Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion efforts - and women - in the workplace. How did the seemingly noncontentious goal of inclusivity become controversial? More importantly, what can we learn from this back lash to transform our own approach? As always, we offer solutions.

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Season 3, Ep 9: Believing in Yourself, A Conversation with Angela B. Freeman

In this episode, we talk to Angela B. Freeman, mom, wife, law firm partner, and podcaster about where she's been and what she hopes for in teaming up with others. We discuss the moments White women have failed to be allies and partners to Women of Color, and what we all need to do to step up, including recognizing the advantages some people have based on skin color. Along with firmly believing in herself but knowing she had to be twice as good, Angela carried - and continues to carry - a deep curiousity for others. 

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Season 3, Ep. 7: We’re Not Going Back!

Join us for a discussion with Blessing Adesiyan who entered corporate American with a baby in her arms, literally. She shares her nuggets about creating a care infrastructure for workers at all levels and how businesses can best adapt in this new post-COVID landscape. As Blessing says, we're not going back to how it was before. In this new reality, caring about workers is as imperative for their well-being as it is for the bottom line.

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Season 3, Ep 6: There’s An Elephant in the Room

Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion efforts surged in 2020, but are now experiencing headwinds. Carrie Fletcher, leadership and strategy consultant, joins us to discuss how and why DEI initiatives falter, the critical role of men, and the need to address the elephant in the room which asks "what's in it for me"? 

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Season 3, Ep 5: Bringing Men to the Table with the Good Guys

Good Guys authors David Smith and Brad Johnson say that men are the key to gender parity. We agree but we need many more men as allies. In this episode, Cathy and Deborah ask the tough questions. What is standing in the way of full engagement by men? And for those men who are engaged, what can they do right now?

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Season 3, Ep 4: GERI, Where Women and Men Talk Gender

We are joined by Gender Equity and Reconciliation International (GERI) to discuss bringing women and men together to listen to each other and bridge the gender divide. Its view? Parity isn't possible unless we engage with each other more deeply. GERI colleagues Cynthia Brix and Jon Levitt share a glimpse into what this process entails.

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Privilege: Breaking Down Defensiveness and Opening Up Dialogue

People hear a lot of different things when they hear the word "privilege," both good and bad. In this episode, Cathy and Deborah discuss their own privileges and how to have a more constructive, nuanced discussion, including by ditching the word. They also discuss "aha" moments and best practices for using whatever privileges -- or advantages -- you have to create a more inclusive workplace.

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Season 3, Ep 2: They said what?! Calling Out and Calling In Bias

We focus a lot in this day and age on unconscious bias, but women continue to experience head-scratching moments of in-your-face, outright explicit bias. From public shaming to cornering and bullying, listen in on these modern-day examples of good old-fashioned blatant sexism - and know you are not alone. Then, learn what you can do as the target of bias, and even more importantly as an ally, including by "calling out" and "calling in." 

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Season 3, Ep 1: Allies Wanted, A Conversation with Julie Kratz

In our kick-off to Season 3, we return to the theme of allies, who are critical for parity in the workplace. But what do we mean by "ally" and what do we want and need allies to do? Julie Kratz, author of several works on allyship, answers these questions and discusses the importance of listening to others whose shoes you don't walk in.

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Season 2, Ep 11: The Broken Rung, Headwinds, and Women’s Leadership, 2022 in Review

Women and caregivers continue to feel the effects of the pandemic as unprecedented numbers of women leaders exit the workforce or switch jobs in search of better cultures. The Great Resignation, Quiet Quitting, and Quick Quitting are new phrases to describe how women and caregivers are coping with work and home demands. As we look back on 2022, we remain positive for the year ahead.

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Season 2, Ep 10: The Price of Masculinity Norms with Guests Dr. Ronald Levant and Andy Cooper

The price of men being led to believe that they must act in ways that conform to their gender can be enormous, for men and women alike. Guest Co-Host Andy Cooper joins Deborah Pollack-Milgate for a discussion with author, psychologist, and masculinity studies pioneer Dr. Ronald Levant. Dr. Levant talks about the socialization of boys and masculinity and its reverberations, while the trio explores the imprint on workplace culture.

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Season 2, Ep 9: Sexism, Lies, and Fairy Tales - A Conversation with Dr. Anne Beall

We talk with Dr. Anne Beall, author of Cinderella Did Not Live Happily Ever After: The Hidden Messages in Fairy Tales. Using data science, we discuss fairy tale themes: women are passive and largely devoid of power and agency, except for witches and evil stepmothers, while men are smart, brave, and heroic. Join us as we discuss how these themes continue to hamper women in the modern workplace.

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Season 2, Ep 8: There’s An Eruption in My Living Room: The Care Economy, Part 2

Caregiving is a second economy that requires a skilled workforce all its own. Yet, in the absence of acknowledging the scale and critical relevance of this economy, the main drivers and load-bearers of this economy remain women. We simply cannot achieve gender parity without more support and without others taking on their share of the load. Dr. Nithila Peter joins us in a 2-part series to discuss solutions.

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Season 2, Ep 7: There’s an Eruption in My Living Room! The Care Economy, Part 1

Caregiving is a second economy that requires a skilled workforce all its own. Yet, women are its main drivers, leaving us tired and worn out, and making it nigh impossible to compete in the workplace. We cannot achieve gender parity without more support. The pandemic showed us that caregivers and those we tend to deserve better. Dr. Nithila Peter joins us in a 2 part series to discuss solutions.

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